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ralliart



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Evo X arutelu Reply with quote

Rääkige auto murekohtadest, tüüpvigadest, probleemidest jne.
Endal pole õnnestunud veel omada aga plaan on tulevikus soetada
Paljud laidavad SST kasti, teised jälle kiidavad. Samas on netifoorumitest palju probleeme silma jäänud SST kastidega. Suur probleem pidavat olema samuti manuaal kastiga 2008-10 lõpp kesk diffri pulgad mis pidid purunema koos diffri korpusega. Ise kardangi just sst kasti remonti. Samuti mis mudeli väiksed pidurid alla sobivad. Võibolla polegi asjad nii tumedad kui paistavad. Jagage muljeid ja kogemusi
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ingvar



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mul saab kohe-kohe aastake täis. Võtsin uuena, SST ja siiani null probleemi(ptui, ptui, ptui:). Seega tüüpvigadest rääkida ei oska. Hetkel ees 17000km. Kuna kasutan autot eelkõige igapäeva sõitudeks, siis valisin nimelt SST kasti. Kast muidugi nii mugavalt ja sujuvalt ei toimeta, kui tänapäevased uued automaadid, aga sellega õpib sõitma ja ei häiri üldse. Suurim miinus on minu jaoks stardiabi puudumine. Piduriga startides "poob" kinni ja kaotad ca sekundi. Muidugi peaks saama kõik piirajad ka maha võtta.
Kasti sidur peaks SST-l kestma ca 70-80000km ja maksab suurusjärk 2000 euri. Manuaalil loetakse siduri eaks 40000km ja maksab poole vähem ehk 1000 euri.
USA foorumitest lugesin, et nüüd pidi ka SST kasti osasid varuosadena saama tellida. Seega peaks seda ka remontida saama.
Miinuseks võib vist ka seda lugeda, et stabiilsuskontrolli täiesti maha võtta ei saa - kuskilt jääb ikka midagi toimetama. Seda on eriti tunda asfaldil. Jääl ja kruusal ei sega. Võib olla saab kuskilt ajust seda seadistada, aga kuna auto garantiis, siis pole midagi näppinud.

Väikesed pidurid huvitaks ennast ka - kas 15 tolli jaoks piisab ainult esimest vahetusest või tuleb tagumised ka ära vahetada? Silma järgi tundub viimane variant.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-general/534700-launch-control-my-2010-evo-x-mr-t-sst.html

Launch peaks täiesti olemas olema standardis.

1. Hold ASC for 3 second until completely OFF
2. Put it in S-SPORT Mode
3. Put it in D
4. Step down hard the Brake pedal
5. Rapidly step on Gas to the floor and u should rev it @ 5000RPM
6. Release Brake pedal..

Sidureid saab ka kangemaid, üks Evo X SST sõidab ju ka rahvarallisid Smile
http://sspperformance.com/sub-category/evo-x--tc-sst-/sst-transmission-packages/

Stabiilsust saab ka kuidagi maha vist aga selle kohta ei oska ma öelda täpselt.

Väikesed pidurid peab vist ka tagumised ära vahetama, et 15" alla läheks.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hea infoteema asjast huvitatule!
http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-general/416088-evolution-x-helpful-faq-tsbs-known-issues-etc.html

Manuaal kastiga autodel on siduri peasilinder nõrk koht, kuna tegemist on plastmassist osaga. See lihtsalt läheb pooleks isegi standard autol!
Minu teada on MY2010 autodel see juba korda tehtud.
Tavaliselt vahetatakse see Ralliart toote või järelturu toote vastu välja, sest kui keegi on autot natukene järele aidanud siis on see vajalik vahetus olnud.

Osad aftermarket siduri kitid on isegi müügil koos master cylinderiga!
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/lams-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-x-clutch-master-cylinder-upgrade-kit.html

Stabiilsuse eemaldamise vastu on Eestis juba rohi leitud, ning see toimib nii SST'l kui GSR'l.

Pidurid tuleb mõlemad ära vahetada, kui tahad 15 tolli velge kasutada, originaalis on GSR ja MR ees350mm ja taga 330mm pidur, seega alla 17 tolli sinna peale ei tohiks mahtuda. Teiseks tuleb see mure, et X'le ei sobi EVO 4-9 veljed alla, sest tagumised pidurid on teistugused. 15 tolli alla mahutamisel in minu arusaamist mööda 2 varianti:
1. sobivad pidurid ning uued veljed.
2. sobivad pidurid ning pikemad spilkad ja flantsid.

Tagumise diffri mure kohta on infot siin, see on olnud suurem mure koht, kui ma isegi alguses arvasin. Kasutatud auto puhul tuleb seda kindlasti kontrollida.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-engine-turbo-drivetrain/561850-rear-diff-clutch-plates-installed-incorrectly-factory.html

Lisaks on X'i omanikel turbo upgrade pärast olnud palju kokkupuuteid põlema süttimisega. Kuna autol asetseb turbo erinevalt eelnevatest Evodest tulemüüri ja mootori vahel, siis seal tekib tohutu kuumus.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-general/599787-attn-evo-10-owners-run-manifold-heat-shield-your-car-will-catch-fire.html

SST on super hea auto ilma stabiilsuse ja ABS'ita kruusal ja jääl.
Lihtsalt nagu ikka Evodega pead teda korralikult ja regulaarselt hooldama, siis ei tule kalleid ootamatusi.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manual kasti probleem siis
It appears Mits did a lot to improve on the 8-9 with the X unit, but the X also has some problems. The center diff spider gear locking pins have an issue of breaking, and the gear shafts will work their way loose and through your case causing a lot of damage. All of our X rebuilds include a fix to the center diff so you never have to worry about it again. If your center diff had this failure and damaged the trans case don’t give up on the unit and spend a fortune on a new one! We have the ability to repair most case damage here with our equipment, and if we can’t, we can get any part needed for your trans, so your unit is repairable! Please email us at sales@jackstransmissions.com

UPDATE:

Most people are only replacing the pins when repairing/upgrading your X center diff. This will not work! The reason the diff pins fail is due to a lubrication issue. The gears don't have enough oil, so they seize to the shafts which break the pins as the twisting force applied to the pins is more than they can eventually take. Basically, the seized gear will twist the locking pin right off the shaft. Upgraded pins will delay the failure of the shafts working their way through your case, but WILL NOT solve the lubrication issue. What we do is tear the whole center diff down. We modify the shafts to allow for more oil, we upgrade the pins for added insurance, and we then add scoops to the center diff housing to force more oil inside the assembly. The way the assembly is designed is flawed in that the faster you drive your car the less oil is able to get inside. Our scoops will force more oil in the assembly the faster you go and it works! Some info HERE on how we do it (the link is of what we do to a DSM center diff, but it also has the same issue and your X center will get the same treatment) If that wasn't enough, there's more! We also modify the sun gear pins so they can float in the housing. This modification, along with the scoops, is the major difference between our center diff rebuilds and what everyone else does. Have the piece of mind that your diff will live forever with our modifications and never give you an issue again! We offer a lifetime warranty against center diff failure due to how well our modification works! Ask any of our competitors if they would give you a lifetime warranty on your center diff, we believe the answer to be 'NO'.


Another issue we had pop up on a recent unit here is excessive 3-4 shift fork wear. The fork wore so badly that the unit would no longer stay in 3rd gear. We added lubrication channels to the fork and so far all seems to be well.

Last issue we found is Mits is still using the same weak fork pins as the previous years. We modify these in all of our rebuilds also so you never have to worry about them backing out.

We have not seen any other issues involving the X trans. They look to be the best shifting and strongest design we have ever seen from Mits, but if abused, raced on, or not maintained they will need service like with anything else. Feel confident that Jacks Transmissions has the knowledge and equipemt to do it right with all of the latest updates to make a unit that is better than new when you recieve the unit back from us!
info siit http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pages/evox-review
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oskab keegi kasko hindadest midagi rääkida, kui odavalt oleks reaalne saada? If kalkulaator pakub 240 eur kuu mis on päris krõbe juba
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1700.- aasta. Omavastutus 190 euri. Swedi kindlustus.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rääkige mulle millise mitsubishi piduri mäng on tagasillas evo x rs mudelil.Ma ei tahaks uskuda, et autole on tehtud eraldi rs pidurid taha. Mingi mitsu omad peavad ju sobima.Ja kas 16 velje sobib üle suppordi originaal bremboga
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kas on keegi proovind X-le 17 velge alla, kas sobib mingi mudel mille üle pidurite meelitaks? Otsin siin vaikselt talvekomplekti. Ja kas 18x8 et 35 istuks alla?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ei tea küll kedagi, et 17" oleks alla pannud X-le. Mul on talvel all olnud 225/45/18 ja orignaalvelje peal, mis on 8.5 laiad. Sobivad väga hästi ja 2 talve juba nii sõitnud. Kui kitsamat rehvi tahad, siis peab ikkagi väiksemate pidurite poole vaatama.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tahaks ja väiksemat ja kitsamat.Vanemate RS piduritega on see keeruline osa, et tagumised ei istu alla, esimesed sobivad alates IV. Eelmistele sai panna ette väiksed ja taha brembod jätta aga X-l taga mäng liiga suur 330mm, viib asjad balansist välja. RS omi väga ei liigu või küsitakse hinge hinda. Lancer GTS pidavat ka sama väike pidur taga olema, kindel pole.
Odavaim variant ikkagi sama mis sinul siis, natuke kitsam rehv panna. Kuidas pidamine on muidu, väga lehm või?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ei ole hullu midagi, täitsa sõidetav on muidu. Päris palju sai jäärada ka sõidetud ja täitsa julgen soovitada!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Täna Kuusakoskist möödasõites sai huvi pärast kaalu peal käidud autoga, X GSR blank ilma tümpsu ja lisadeta.
Ei tea kui õige või vale kaal oli aga stock konditsioonis kaalus auto 1570kg.
Lisatud ainult pumba kate ja porilapakad, paagis oli vast 15l kütet. Passi on löödud igatahes tühimassiks 1685kg.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutch master cylinder recall Evo X 5 speed.
Lugesin hiljuti netist, et Usas alates novembrist kutsutakse tagasi kõik evo x gsr, et vahetada välja siduri peasilinder. Täna jäi silma selline artikkel, et tahetakse asi globaalseks muuta. On siin mõni esinduse tööline ka kellel mingit infot?
Artikkel siis siin
http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-news/mitsubishi_lancer_evo_2008_13_recalled?utm_source=googleplus&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kui sa oled oma auto ostnud ametlikust esindusest või hooldad ametlikus esinduses ja oled jätnud sinna oma reaalse kontakti, siis saad kampaania alguse korral kirja, et palun panna oma autole aeg. Hetkel pole kampaaniat välja kuulutatud.
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